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In what feels like the movie Groundhog Day, I wanted to share some concerns about this latest FreightWaves pro-tariff article: https://lnkd.in/gzVSJE-w. Thoughts: •Regarding the discussion of food manufacturing, the article, ironically, makes my point that tariffs can destroy domestic production by reducing exports due to retaliation. This not only means less food for trucking companies to haul, but it means fewer loads of inputs such as chemicals, ingredients, paperboard containers, plastic packaging, etc. After a two-year decline in freight volumes, this is the last thing for-hire trucking companies want to experience (especially when food manufacturing is the single largest industry in terms of generating freight that for-hire carriers haul). •Regarding food prices, I’m very skeptical of this argument. Basic economics tells us that when the demand curve shifts, firms will most likely respond by reducing supply to avoid reducing prices (see first bullet). Moreover, there is a huge assumption here that goods produced for export can be effortlessly sold on the domestic market; I’m not sure this will be the case. It’s also worth noting the producer price index for food manufacturing has been rising this year (https://lnkd.in/eXaC4cyP), due largely to the rising cost of inputs. •Concerning energy prices, my issue with the proposed argument is that energy prices today are likely near a floor, so there isn’t much chance of seeing further declines. WTI is hovering around $70 a barrel (https://lnkd.in/gSXsgJxi), and natural gas prices are running at a low level of $2.5 per million BTU (https://lnkd.in/giu5jtwq).   Electricity prices aren’t poised to come down (https://lnkd.in/gZtf8Jrr), especially with the incredible demand being placed by data center demand (https://lnkd.in/gbrMgJMg). Moreover, any significant drop in oil and gas prices will cause a drop in freight demand due to less oil & gas well drilling, and consequently less demand for construction equipment, fabricated metal goods, steel, etc. Remember, the fracking bust in 2015-2016 was the main catalyst for that freight recession. Implication: it’s good to see FreightWaves acknowledge that proposed tariffs on China and the rest of the world will result in domestic demand destruction due to retaliation against U.S. food manufacturing. Their energy cost narrative, however, ignores numerous nuances. For anyone interested, I strongly recommend this well-sourced, cogent article from The Wall Street Journal (https://lnkd.in/g-HKtkpC). #supplychain #supplychainmanagement #shipsandshipping #freight #trucking  

Joseph Politano

Independent Writer at Apricitas Economics

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Why are Craig Fuller & Freightwaves writing so many pro-tariff pieces? well...

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John Lawson III

Host of 'The Smartest Podcast'

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Insightful analysis. It’s essential to consider all variables when it comes to tariffs and their broader impact on the supply chain. 🔍

Clay Stanger

Executive Vice President, Transportation & Asset Strategy | Compass Executive Sponsor | Girl Dad

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February 2nd indeed!!

Neal R.

International Logistics, Chemicals, Automotive, Consumer Products

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Jason, all excellent points and well taken. Lost in all of this are US exports. For both 2022, and 2023, we topped 2 trillion. 2024, as of August, we were well on our way to the 2 trillion mark again. These are record numbers. Most nations will likely enact some level of retaliatory tariffs if not commensurate tariffs. Not sure how this benefits the US manufacturing industry or economy in general, but believe quite a few American export dependent jobs are likely to be impacted. The ACC reports that there are between 25 to 30% export dependent jobs in the chemical sector and a 30 billion dollar trade surplus. There are very legitimate concerns. My best hope is this result in more favorable trade negotiations in relaxed duties and tariffs on US made products, but not holding my breath.

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Mike O.

Business Development Manager

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The tariff talks seem to make some sense. But not totally. I would like to know more about them through the experiential knowledge of consumer and the price effects. What has been the effects of the use of tariffs in the past on the economy as a whole? What about the use of tariffs in other countries currently? Do they benefit the people of the country? Who really pays for tariff price increases? Is it the consumer of the tariffed items? What do you think of George Gammon's explanation for a case in point? Is he correct? https://www.youtube.com/live/n-gueVyLSWw?si=xgwMiv1K7ll5w01q

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Anthony C.

Managing Director at Stari Consulting Services

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I asked CharGPT "What has been the effect of the Chicken Tax on light truck prices in the U.S.?" Here's the answer - I had to edit it to fit, but you can do your own research: The Chicken Tax, a 25% tariff imposed by the United States on imported light trucks, has significantly influenced the price of light trucks in the U.S. since its implementation in 1964. Here's an overview of its effects: 1. Higher Domestic Prices for Light Trucks 2. Increased Profit Margins for U.S. Automakers 3. Market Distortion 4. Reduced Consumer Choice 5. Impact on Industry Structure The policy has led to a U.S. light truck market dominated by domestic producers, while foreign automakers focus on cars or leverage U.S.-based production facilities to circumvent the tariff. Quantifying the Price Impact ...analysts generally agree that light truck prices in the U.S. are higher than they would be in a tariff-free environment. The absence of strong foreign competition has enabled U.S. manufacturers to maintain higher price levels for their trucks. ...the ... Tax has shielded U.S. automakers from foreign competition in the light truck segment, resulting in higher prices, reduced consumer choice, and concentrated profits for domestic manufacturers.

Mark Kapostasy

Global Logistics Manager - Preformed Line Products

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Jason, on the energy side of things pricing is near the floor. In fact more domestic demand for electricity will cause electricity prices to go up. The demand for transmission lines is greater than the capacity to build out additional infrastructure. It takes years and decades to build transmission infrastructure. (increase in interest rates set us back at least 2 years) While once they are built, they become part of the natural landscape but getting them up takes Time and money. Land acquisition Engineering Design and sourcing ( three years at my current company has given me some crazy insight as to how long these projects can take.) The projects are in the Billions of Dollars (we do our little piece) Evaluation of need Approval of project Acquisition of land Design Sourcing Installation planning Small projects take up to 3 years Big Projects can take 10 years There is a huge difference borrowing at 8% vs 5% vs 3%. Anyone who wants to work should look at transmission installation, it will pay well but you will be gone from home.

Ari Ashe

Senior Editor at Journal of Commerce

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Love the WSJ.

Mathew Rebstock

Vice President of Business Development | Y-Force Logistics

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Jason Miller You highlight the impact of tariffs on food manufacturing and related freight. Are there other specific industries (e.g., automotive, electronics, etc) where you anticipate disproportionate effects from tariffs, whether it's increased domestic production, shifts in sourcing patterns, or potential disruptions to supply chains? Like your post about fabricated metal products and wood production today

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