
Hah! I just managed to pass off furry shit off for a thesis...
(Top mark, at that.)
It was a series of digital prints, this is what it looked like on the wall - an image and a separate bar with text (involving quotes on a subject) below. Since the quotes are in lithuanian and I'm a bit too busy to make exact english layouts of them (that would end up unreadable on a screen anyway), I'll just post the images themselves and add the [english] quotes in the descriptions.
I'll be posting the individual pieces one by one the next few days, these are the links to them, corresponding to the composition above:
"Gaeabionta" is a taxonomic term for the entire cellular life on earth.
The series is about the relationship between "human" and "animal" and revolves around the idea of common ancestry and cultural heritage. A set of phantasmagorical visions, acts in a simplified Noh theater scene of the imagination, taking quotes as a starting place. Memetics and Bergson's ideas of Intuition and Élan vital (in L'Evolution créatrice) are at the core of the idea. There's a certain something common to Life, theater, culture and digital: they all involve a "code" (DNA, script, meme, binary code) that has to be interpreted in a certain way to become what it represents; the codes may be timeless abstractions, but their conrete manifestations are limited in time and space, like movies being played out, coming into existence for a short time, then disolving into nothingness and inexistence, an empty screen extending to infinity before and after. In such a pessimistic godless universe, every such short spark of life is infinitely valuable, never to be repeated. It also questions - if ideas as memes are in a way "alive" in the cultural environment of many minds and working/evolving similary to biological lifeforms, can creatures born and living in the imagination be considered "alive" in the same way? And the act of portraying them and expressing the imagination, thus allowing them to populate other minds - their procreation? The piece is mostly about how we view other lifeforms, and what it tells about us...
Some random thoughts of interest:
The dualism of image and text has roots in Bergon's comparison of intuition (image) and intellect (text).
The quotes themselves are memes (like genes), which give rise to the artwork via an interpreter (artist).
Noh theater is a highly developed Japanese art, involving use of masks, very minimalistic means of expression and actors' commitment to it from very childhood up to old age.
Seeing Life in a broader picture - how all life looks alike and behaves alike (being one huge family, after all), the blurring boundaries between different bodies and minds, how everything is interconnected - the contraposition between human and rest of nature (especially in western culture) becomes an unthinkable absurdity. It has to go, for the better of everyone involved.
Showing respect for other lifeforms may be the best way for us humans to accept our own nature.
If the most positive sentiments we have (like love, empathy, creativity, loyality...) are our biological heritage and not things we made, why is "animal" still a swear word?
Too often the "animal" (both other animals and our own nature) is only acceptable as long as it does what we require it to, it has to be controled, trained, handled, shackled or if all fails - killed...
The following isn't my idea, it was mentioned by my reviewer, but I think it's an excellent observation:
In christianity the animal was a soulless being, thus open to demonic possession. Always suspicious, its calling thriving in the shadows of evil. As noted by Focault, human has found the animal in its own nature in about 19 century, and along with it - the potential domain of evil. This was the price the modern westerner had to pay for deriving its genealogy no longer from god, but from natural evolution. This is how every westerner became a Jekyll, hiding Hyde.
(Top mark, at that.)
It was a series of digital prints, this is what it looked like on the wall - an image and a separate bar with text (involving quotes on a subject) below. Since the quotes are in lithuanian and I'm a bit too busy to make exact english layouts of them (that would end up unreadable on a screen anyway), I'll just post the images themselves and add the [english] quotes in the descriptions.
I'll be posting the individual pieces one by one the next few days, these are the links to them, corresponding to the composition above:
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"Gaeabionta" is a taxonomic term for the entire cellular life on earth.
The series is about the relationship between "human" and "animal" and revolves around the idea of common ancestry and cultural heritage. A set of phantasmagorical visions, acts in a simplified Noh theater scene of the imagination, taking quotes as a starting place. Memetics and Bergson's ideas of Intuition and Élan vital (in L'Evolution créatrice) are at the core of the idea. There's a certain something common to Life, theater, culture and digital: they all involve a "code" (DNA, script, meme, binary code) that has to be interpreted in a certain way to become what it represents; the codes may be timeless abstractions, but their conrete manifestations are limited in time and space, like movies being played out, coming into existence for a short time, then disolving into nothingness and inexistence, an empty screen extending to infinity before and after. In such a pessimistic godless universe, every such short spark of life is infinitely valuable, never to be repeated. It also questions - if ideas as memes are in a way "alive" in the cultural environment of many minds and working/evolving similary to biological lifeforms, can creatures born and living in the imagination be considered "alive" in the same way? And the act of portraying them and expressing the imagination, thus allowing them to populate other minds - their procreation? The piece is mostly about how we view other lifeforms, and what it tells about us...
Some random thoughts of interest:
The dualism of image and text has roots in Bergon's comparison of intuition (image) and intellect (text).
The quotes themselves are memes (like genes), which give rise to the artwork via an interpreter (artist).
Noh theater is a highly developed Japanese art, involving use of masks, very minimalistic means of expression and actors' commitment to it from very childhood up to old age.
Seeing Life in a broader picture - how all life looks alike and behaves alike (being one huge family, after all), the blurring boundaries between different bodies and minds, how everything is interconnected - the contraposition between human and rest of nature (especially in western culture) becomes an unthinkable absurdity. It has to go, for the better of everyone involved.
Showing respect for other lifeforms may be the best way for us humans to accept our own nature.
If the most positive sentiments we have (like love, empathy, creativity, loyality...) are our biological heritage and not things we made, why is "animal" still a swear word?
Too often the "animal" (both other animals and our own nature) is only acceptable as long as it does what we require it to, it has to be controled, trained, handled, shackled or if all fails - killed...
The following isn't my idea, it was mentioned by my reviewer, but I think it's an excellent observation:
In christianity the animal was a soulless being, thus open to demonic possession. Always suspicious, its calling thriving in the shadows of evil. As noted by Focault, human has found the animal in its own nature in about 19 century, and along with it - the potential domain of evil. This was the price the modern westerner had to pay for deriving its genealogy no longer from god, but from natural evolution. This is how every westerner became a Jekyll, hiding Hyde.
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Lovely illustrated break down of animal ideology and hella nice how you slipped furry in there, you did it so well. I use to do the same thing when I was at school but yeah anthropomorphic art like this should be more of the stuff we as furries should be turning out but eh, porn rules the day. I can just look at this and see all the people through out time trying to find there identify or connection other wise in this world.
Thankies.
Yes, I'm a bit dissapointed to see very few people do this. Sure, porn can be nice, but these are the thoughts and feelings that got me into anthropomorphic (I hate the term furry, it's cute, but retarded and inaccuarate) genre in the first place. It is what it's about for me.
Yes, I'm a bit dissapointed to see very few people do this. Sure, porn can be nice, but these are the thoughts and feelings that got me into anthropomorphic (I hate the term furry, it's cute, but retarded and inaccuarate) genre in the first place. It is what it's about for me.
On FA, we can see a great reluctance to explore ideas or personal obsessions that owe more to the world beyond our skins than to the cobwebs of our own skulls; but a project like this one could help to kick open doors. I'm eager to see where you take it!
>>Showing respect for other lifeforms may be the best way for us humans to accept our own nature.
>>If the most positive sentiments we have (like love, empathy, creativity, loyality...) are our biological heritage and not things we made, why is "animal" still a swear word?
Good question!
If we reject dualism (the "split" between mind and body) and embrace evolution (the common biological heritage that we share with every living thing on Earth), then it becomes clear that all of our most human qualities have biological precursors, and that respecting ourselves would also entail respecting other forms of life.
>>Too often the "animal" (both other animals and our own nature) is only acceptable as long as it does what we require it to, it has to be controled, trained, handled, shackled or if all fails - killed...
Many of us accept the idea that it is wrong to treat people as things, as objects that we can use for selfish purposes. But again, if we also accept evolution, then we might begin to question our tendency to treat other living organisms as things "designed" simply for our use.
Where would that questioning lead? I don't know... but that's exactly the sort of exploration that I would have expected to find on FA, yet how often does it show up?
But here it is, right here on this page -- thanks to you.
Mark
>>Showing respect for other lifeforms may be the best way for us humans to accept our own nature.
>>If the most positive sentiments we have (like love, empathy, creativity, loyality...) are our biological heritage and not things we made, why is "animal" still a swear word?
Good question!
If we reject dualism (the "split" between mind and body) and embrace evolution (the common biological heritage that we share with every living thing on Earth), then it becomes clear that all of our most human qualities have biological precursors, and that respecting ourselves would also entail respecting other forms of life.
>>Too often the "animal" (both other animals and our own nature) is only acceptable as long as it does what we require it to, it has to be controled, trained, handled, shackled or if all fails - killed...
Many of us accept the idea that it is wrong to treat people as things, as objects that we can use for selfish purposes. But again, if we also accept evolution, then we might begin to question our tendency to treat other living organisms as things "designed" simply for our use.
Where would that questioning lead? I don't know... but that's exactly the sort of exploration that I would have expected to find on FA, yet how often does it show up?
But here it is, right here on this page -- thanks to you.
Mark
Thanks a lot for your thoughtful replies again.
Those exact thoughts always bother me. And likewise, I was expecting to encounter more of the kind of exploration, yet most often it's just suspense of disbelief, no questioning at all... Remember in our discussion a while back a certain idea showed up: "part of having a fetish is not understanding it"? I fundamentally do not agree with that, each of them (furry included) has a certain modus operandi, they might not be rationally undestandable, but they certainly have certain emotional workings to them. Exploring and analysing them, I think, is much more interesting than just indulging (or keeping them taboo).
Those exact thoughts always bother me. And likewise, I was expecting to encounter more of the kind of exploration, yet most often it's just suspense of disbelief, no questioning at all... Remember in our discussion a while back a certain idea showed up: "part of having a fetish is not understanding it"? I fundamentally do not agree with that, each of them (furry included) has a certain modus operandi, they might not be rationally undestandable, but they certainly have certain emotional workings to them. Exploring and analysing them, I think, is much more interesting than just indulging (or keeping them taboo).
>>Remember in our discussion a while back a certain idea showed up: "part of having a fetish is not understanding it"? I fundamentally do not agree with that, each of them (furry included) has a certain modus operandi, they might not be rationally understandable, but they certainly have certain emotional workings to them.
Yes, they do; and even if we can't completely specify the source of an idea, we can certainly explore its impact on our lives.
For me, all too often, "furry" art reminds me of children playing with toys, oblivious to the idea that toys were created by other people for purposes of their own. But in the real world, children grow up, and learn to look behind the scenes -- at assumptions, at marketing schemes, at the meaning of their playtime scenarios.
Then they put aside the ponies and the lion kings, the krystals and the renamons; they begin to express their own ideas about life, their own experience.
At least in the real world, they do.
Yes, they do; and even if we can't completely specify the source of an idea, we can certainly explore its impact on our lives.
For me, all too often, "furry" art reminds me of children playing with toys, oblivious to the idea that toys were created by other people for purposes of their own. But in the real world, children grow up, and learn to look behind the scenes -- at assumptions, at marketing schemes, at the meaning of their playtime scenarios.
Then they put aside the ponies and the lion kings, the krystals and the renamons; they begin to express their own ideas about life, their own experience.
At least in the real world, they do.
Yes, well... It does look like some people just drop their toys and never come back to them.
Having just gone through my entire old watchlists and favorites, I can say the number of great artists that have left (and deleted old works, which I think is a bit rude) or haven't updated for years is very depressing.
Having just gone through my entire old watchlists and favorites, I can say the number of great artists that have left (and deleted old works, which I think is a bit rude) or haven't updated for years is very depressing.
I can't blame them for leaving: there's no future on FA, or in the fandom.
For now, I contribute what I can, and I accept with gratitude and pleasure the few examples of expressive, personal work that artists are willing to share on the site -- works like yours, works like this one.
For now, I contribute what I can, and I accept with gratitude and pleasure the few examples of expressive, personal work that artists are willing to share on the site -- works like yours, works like this one.
There may be no [monetary] future, but there's deffinately enought things to do, thoughts to think and problems to solve here. I guess those who expect being rewarded for their effort get depressed when it just sinks under a mountain of brightly colored ponies...
And thank you very much for your ongoing support, it means a lot.
And thank you very much for your ongoing support, it means a lot.
Well, you are one of the few artists left on the site whose work I can understand. Too many others bury their work in references to corporate pop-culture, as ephemeral as last week's cotton candy. But Gaeabionta deals with questions that won't fade away after the next commercial....
Thanks.
Well, some trendyness is to be expected, given how young people here usually are, and that the whole thing is mostly influenced by (feature and tv, not short) animation and gaming. I think in part the term "furry" is to blame, ever since it turned from "people making works about certain subject matter" (used to be an "anthro"/"anthropomorphic" term, lots more accurate) into a "fandom", implying a community of like-minded, things have been going into the superficial hallucinations. I really hate the word, I really do.
Then again, references have their place, I think. Sincerity and naivete are often intertwined, and I don't think ignoring a thought that has been presented in a children's movie just because it was presented in a children's movie is right.
I've been thinking of a piece that would have a reference to a recent animated feature and a certain recent (2003) disaster. I'm short on time to actually make it.
Well, some trendyness is to be expected, given how young people here usually are, and that the whole thing is mostly influenced by (feature and tv, not short) animation and gaming. I think in part the term "furry" is to blame, ever since it turned from "people making works about certain subject matter" (used to be an "anthro"/"anthropomorphic" term, lots more accurate) into a "fandom", implying a community of like-minded, things have been going into the superficial hallucinations. I really hate the word, I really do.
Then again, references have their place, I think. Sincerity and naivete are often intertwined, and I don't think ignoring a thought that has been presented in a children's movie just because it was presented in a children's movie is right.
I've been thinking of a piece that would have a reference to a recent animated feature and a certain recent (2003) disaster. I'm short on time to actually make it.
>>I think in part the term "furry" is to blame, ever since it turned from "people making works about certain subject matter" (used to be an "anthro"/"anthropomorphic" term, lots more accurate) into a "fandom", implying a community of like-minded, things have been going into the superficial hallucinations. I really hate the word, I really do.
It sets up a false commonality of purpose between those who want to recall and resurrect their favourite cartoon characters, and those who want to explore and develop anthropomorphic imagery for the sake of their own ideas.
>>Sincerity and naivete are often intertwined, and I don't think ignoring a thought that has been presented in a children's movie just because it was presented in a children's movie is right.
I agree. Sometimes, stories for children can be strikingly honest.
>>I've been thinking of a piece that would have a reference to a recent animated feature and a certain recent (2003) disaster. I'm short on time to actually make it.
That's the beauty of good ideas: they can nag at you patiently, even for decades. And they can wait. :)
It sets up a false commonality of purpose between those who want to recall and resurrect their favourite cartoon characters, and those who want to explore and develop anthropomorphic imagery for the sake of their own ideas.
>>Sincerity and naivete are often intertwined, and I don't think ignoring a thought that has been presented in a children's movie just because it was presented in a children's movie is right.
I agree. Sometimes, stories for children can be strikingly honest.
>>I've been thinking of a piece that would have a reference to a recent animated feature and a certain recent (2003) disaster. I'm short on time to actually make it.
That's the beauty of good ideas: they can nag at you patiently, even for decades. And they can wait. :)
A. Thankies. :>
B. *hugs* <3
C. Yep, about bloody time... Strangely, it feels like nothing's changed. :)
D. Ooh, you're still busy busy, I see. Have a good time (or: I wish you best of patience; depending on what kind of event it is)! and No worries, this won't go anywhere.
B. *hugs* <3
C. Yep, about bloody time... Strangely, it feels like nothing's changed. :)
D. Ooh, you're still busy busy, I see. Have a good time (or: I wish you best of patience; depending on what kind of event it is)! and No worries, this won't go anywhere.
I'm glad to see some furries exploring this kind of thing in their art. I'm an animal rights activist myself, and it's disappointing how much of furry is motivated by selfishness and porn. I don't have a problem with porn, but one would think that so called animal lovers could do a little more than objectify them.
(Sorry for late reply.)
I share the sentiment.
Somehow I remember it used to be better a few years back. Now it's overtaken by porn, finding things with thought is harder now. I guess removing fave/watch/view counters would improve things by not urging artists to go for popular tastes alone (porn has the upper hand in statistics, just compare internet bandwidth used for porn and for everything else), but that won't happen.
I share the sentiment.
Somehow I remember it used to be better a few years back. Now it's overtaken by porn, finding things with thought is harder now. I guess removing fave/watch/view counters would improve things by not urging artists to go for popular tastes alone (porn has the upper hand in statistics, just compare internet bandwidth used for porn and for everything else), but that won't happen.
A very interesting work, and a thesis that is close to the murky depths of my heart.
Starting from my earliest childhood, when cats lived with us as members of the family, accepted with their personalities, emotions, quirks and individual dignity, I've been primed to accept the (personal) collapse of the barrier between the human and the animal. Over the past several years that collapse has become more a reality, and the blurring of human and animal here on FA has definitely been a factor.
I must say, it's been a huge relief not standing at the pinnacle of Creation. So much pressure! I much prefer being part of the family of the Gaeabionta :)
Looking over this piece, I can see I'm going to have to let it percolate in my own mind for a while. I really enjoy your works, on several levels - the thoughtful pieces, and the erotic ones. (Personally, I reject the old mind/body dualism; I don't regard pornographic art as inherently more selfish or 'unworthy' than any other type of art - all our art is about us, after all - nor do I regard an artist who does porn as lowering themselves. I know this has little to do with this piece, but a couple of people in the comments have presented a contrary view, and I'd like to have my dissent from them on the record :) )
For what it's worth, I think I disagree with your teacher's comment, which I nonetheless find very interesting. I think humanity has always found the animal in its own nature, and any 'discovery' of it in the 19th century happened only in the realm of a small number of rarefied thinkers. I'd be largely unarmed in a real debate on the topic, though!
Also, as it happens, I myself am about to try to pass off some furry art (smut, no less!) as an ironic commentary on the theme of 'reveling in rebelling' in a local art show. Wish me luck! XD
Starting from my earliest childhood, when cats lived with us as members of the family, accepted with their personalities, emotions, quirks and individual dignity, I've been primed to accept the (personal) collapse of the barrier between the human and the animal. Over the past several years that collapse has become more a reality, and the blurring of human and animal here on FA has definitely been a factor.
I must say, it's been a huge relief not standing at the pinnacle of Creation. So much pressure! I much prefer being part of the family of the Gaeabionta :)
Looking over this piece, I can see I'm going to have to let it percolate in my own mind for a while. I really enjoy your works, on several levels - the thoughtful pieces, and the erotic ones. (Personally, I reject the old mind/body dualism; I don't regard pornographic art as inherently more selfish or 'unworthy' than any other type of art - all our art is about us, after all - nor do I regard an artist who does porn as lowering themselves. I know this has little to do with this piece, but a couple of people in the comments have presented a contrary view, and I'd like to have my dissent from them on the record :) )
For what it's worth, I think I disagree with your teacher's comment, which I nonetheless find very interesting. I think humanity has always found the animal in its own nature, and any 'discovery' of it in the 19th century happened only in the realm of a small number of rarefied thinkers. I'd be largely unarmed in a real debate on the topic, though!
Also, as it happens, I myself am about to try to pass off some furry art (smut, no less!) as an ironic commentary on the theme of 'reveling in rebelling' in a local art show. Wish me luck! XD
Thanks a lot. :>
(Sorry, late reply, I know.)
I have a similar view on mind/body - there's only body, with mind being part of it, an organ, if you like. And I too think erotica/pornography can be quite artistic; erotica more so, and there are more examples of very artistic erotica, but pornography offers an interesting problem when attempting to do the same.
It's true, in some cultures and some eras the animal in own nature was more apparent (I have no words for how much i love early cave paintings), but I think middle ages to 19th century west wasn't one of them.
Oh man, trying to pass off this kind of stuff in the "outer world" is stressful, best of luck to you.
(And if you're done - how did it go?)
(Sorry, late reply, I know.)
I have a similar view on mind/body - there's only body, with mind being part of it, an organ, if you like. And I too think erotica/pornography can be quite artistic; erotica more so, and there are more examples of very artistic erotica, but pornography offers an interesting problem when attempting to do the same.
It's true, in some cultures and some eras the animal in own nature was more apparent (I have no words for how much i love early cave paintings), but I think middle ages to 19th century west wasn't one of them.
Oh man, trying to pass off this kind of stuff in the "outer world" is stressful, best of luck to you.
(And if you're done - how did it go?)
I love absolutely all of these. So profound and thought provoking, as well as each concept being so well illustrated.
"Hah! I just managed to pass off furry shit off for a thesis..."
I'd hope so with as well done this is. If this got a failing grade you would have had a very prejudice teacher.
"Hah! I just managed to pass off furry shit off for a thesis..."
I'd hope so with as well done this is. If this got a failing grade you would have had a very prejudice teacher.
I am putting this in my favorites so whenever I'd love to massage my brain, I can read the synopsis of your thesis.
If I could, I would favorite each and every one of these pieces, but this compilation is also aesthetically compelling :)
Phenomenal work, both through art and writing.
If I could, I would favorite each and every one of these pieces, but this compilation is also aesthetically compelling :)
Phenomenal work, both through art and writing.
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