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SUGGEST HERE: Add new Exchange #15

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pluja opened this issue Jun 12, 2020 · 49 comments
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SUGGEST HERE: Add new Exchange #15

pluja opened this issue Jun 12, 2020 · 49 comments

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@pluja
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pluja commented Jun 12, 2020

Comment here any new exchange that you think that should be added.

Already discarded

  • Bity.com - Too many bad reviews on TrustPilot Under investigation
  • tokens.net - KYC is enforced.
  • bitfineon - Can't find ToS anywhere, plus platform isn't yet launched. Will need some testing and feedback from users in order to get listed.
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pluja commented Jun 12, 2020

Suggestion: https://stealthex.io/

@pluja pluja changed the title ADD NEW EXCHANGE SUGGEST HERE: ADD NEW EXCHANGE Jun 12, 2020
@pluja pluja changed the title SUGGEST HERE: ADD NEW EXCHANGE SUGGEST HERE: Add new Exchange Jun 12, 2020
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@jugi1
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jugi1 commented Jun 12, 2020

Also this exchanges you can trade with no kyc:
https://localcryptos.com/
https://www.kucoin.com/
https://qtrade.io/ - Won't add. REASON: https://qtrade.io/aml
https://poloniex.com/
https://www.coinex.com/
https://www.coinbene.com/

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barbierir commented Jun 12, 2020

Add AtomicDex, it's is a cross-chain atomic swap dex that supports all bitcoin-based protocols, ethereum/erc20, tezos and possibly any other protocol coin as long as it supports a minimum required set of rpc calls. It's based on Komodo's maketmaker software for cross-chain atomic swaps, in fact it's the third iteration of this technology:
https://github.com/KomodoPlatform/atomicDEX-API
https://developers.komodoplatform.com/basic-docs/atomicdex/introduction-to-atomicdex.html

Monero doesn't support atomic swaps yet, but if this changes in future it will be possible to integrate it as well.

-Orderbooks & ordermatching are p2p, each node reconstructs an orderbook based on what it receives from its peers
-It works both with full nodes or in lite mode via electrum servers, default mode is lite mode for the AtomicDEX gui
-Multiple GUIs and integration in 3rd party services are possible, sharing the same liquidity pool
-Liquidity multiplier: makers can setup as multiple orders with the same funds, the first that gets filled cancels all others.
-Beside the coins own tx fee, there's a 0,13% taker fee paid in whatever coin the taker is exchanging

On the roadmap there are an OTC mode for direct swap between 2 users, and a bot for CEX/DEX arbitrage

Latest updates:

Desktop alpha 0.1.5
https://github.com/KomodoPlatform/atomicDEX-Pro/releases/tag/0.1.5-alpha

Mobile beta 0.2.17
Android https://play.google.com/apps/testing/com.komodoplatform.atomicdex
iOS https://testflight.apple.com/join/c2mOLEoC

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john-light commented Jun 12, 2020

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ppppso commented Jun 13, 2020

SouthXchange is non-KYC

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vxcozy commented Jun 13, 2020

suggestion: https://switchain.com is non-kyc

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Investigating. Will not be listed until more investigation / feedback is recieved.

From ToS: Switchain's service has a risk scoring system that was created to identify suspicious transaction activity. If a transaction is flagged by our system, the transaction is put on hold and the customer who initiated the transaction will be asked to pass AML & KYС verification.

AML/KYC procedure includes confirming the identity of Users by means of:

  • A high-quality photo of their ID (passport or driving license) valid in their country.
  • Proof of the origin of funds.
  • Any other applicable documentation.

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tohsnoom commented Jun 13, 2020

Please consider adding the Phore Marketplace to your list. It works in a completely decentralized way, similar in some ways to Bisq which is already on your list. It does not support fiat purchases yet, which clearly is harder to do without any form of KYC. Trading is currently supported for Bitcoin and Phore in both directions, as well as purchases of Dogecoin, Ethereum, and Reddcoin for Phore or Bitcoin, with many more to come.

No KYC is even possible--traders trade directly with each other. The only time anyone else is involved would be a 3rd party moderator helping to resolve disputes, and even in the case of disputes there is no need for KYC, since for crypto trades it would mainly be resolved using publicly available blockchain data.

https://phore.io/marketplace

@hadimansouri
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Suggestion: https://www.coinex.com/exchange

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vxcozy commented Jun 14, 2020

suggestion: https://switchain.com is non-kyc

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Investigating. Will not be listed until more investigation / feedback is recieved.

From ToS: Switchain's service has a risk scoring system that was created to identify suspicious transaction activity. If a transaction is flagged by our system, the transaction is put on hold and the customer who initiated the transaction will be asked to pass AML & KYС verification.

AML/KYC procedure includes confirming the identity of Users by means of:

  • A high-quality photo of their ID (passport or driving license) valid in their country.
  • Proof of the origin of funds.
  • Any other applicable documentation.

Thanks for looking into it, @pluja . If you dig into some other exchanges that have already been listed on kycnot.me, they share almost an identical policy. i.e. https://changehero.io/aml-kyc

i've traded with switchain for almost 3 years and never had an issue while also working with them a bit during my time employed for one of the more popular multi-currency, non-custodial crypto wallets.

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I'm currently investigating, give me some time. It's true that changehero has similar policies but it gives refund without needing KYC if asked at some point. @Krypt1k86 can you answer if Switchchain does KYC and if they give the option of refund without KYC?

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My apologies for the delay, @pluja . Yes, in the rare instances where KYC is requested, if the request is denied by the user, the funds are returned without any additional information required.

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No worries @Krypt1k86 , is this written anywhere? I can't find it on https://www.switchain.com/policy and would be nice to assure it is written somewhere.

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rachyandco commented Jun 14, 2020

Will not be listed. Reason:

* Has too many bad reviews on TrustPilot: https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/bity.com?languages=en&stars=1

This is a swiss licensed company with a 6 years track record. It can be found on the swiss financial authority website (search for bity here: https://finma.ch/en/authorisation/self-regulatory-organisations-sros/sro-member-search/ )

Bity api is implemented also in myetherwallet , Edge, Spot.

The trustpilot score is currently in full progression as you can tell from the overall mark. I would argue that judging only by trustpilot is limited.

@pluja what would it take to make you reconsider it?

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dtokens commented Jun 15, 2020

tokens.net - KYC is definitely not enforced. You can try it.

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pluja commented Jun 15, 2020

@dtokens This is from tokens.net ToS:

5.2. The Operator is enforcing the KYC process to comply with AML laws
5.8. The Operator reserves the right to redefine Verification Levels without prior notice and may implement new or additional policies or requirements which may also result in downgrading your existing Tier or request Obligatory Upgrade.
5.9. You agree that if you fail to provide accurate, complete, truthful and valid information and/or documentation, or the latter turn to be invalid over time, are downgraded or you fail to achieve a desired Verification Level or be requested Obligatory Upgrade, you may be limited from trading, transacting, depositing or withdrawing.

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pluja commented Jun 15, 2020

@rachyandco I'll investigate more, thanks for the information.

@jholmes91
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https://www.interdax.com/

Non-KYC exchange offering cryptocurrency derivatives

@greywolf42069
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https://polarity.exchange

https://t.me/polarityexchange

Non-KYC exchange offering DEX trading of cryptocurrencies

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@soldat13
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Request for listing: https://AtomicDEX.io

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jugi1 commented Jun 17, 2020

@jugi1 you sure about Polo? https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-31/goldman-backed-crypto-exchange-rattles-users-with-terms-change

Sure I am.
There is NO KYC tier.
You are looking at article from 2018, and we live in 2020 now....
https://support.poloniex.com/hc/en-us/articles/360040600934-Level-1-Account-FAQ

Not sure what criteria is for listing btw.
Binance was first listed, and now I see it is removed :/

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CodeForcer commented Jul 15, 2020

Could you please add LocalCoinSwap (https://localcoinswap.com), we are a KYC-free exchange with significant daily volume. We offer trading in Bitcoin, Ethereum, Dash, and Stablecoins. We allow both buying and selling, most traders do not require identification, and cash is a popular option.

Thanks, love your site!

EDIT: Made a PR for the request ourselves, to reduce developer hassle:
#34

As mentioned in the PR, we would like to write a blog post to promote KYCNOT.ME and publish it on our site, if that is ok.

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pluja commented Jul 16, 2020

@CodeForcer Hi! KYCNot.me code has just been rewritten so old pull request are no longer valid.

I need to put some investigation on localcoinswap.com, and maybe test it myself. As far as I have seen the community has not talked a lot about localcoinswap and I will need to investigate a bit more myself!

I hope you understand.

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@pluja no problem, let me know if you push new code as I'm happy to update a PR.

Can I ask where you normally get your news and community input regarding P2P trading? We are always looking for more places to interact with people who may not be aware of the privacy-respecting alternatives to mainstream crypto exchanges.

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pluja commented Jul 16, 2020

@CodeForcer Normally I do some research on the internet, not a single place. I look on places like Trustpilot and other reviews I find and try to contrast them (sometimes it seems strange if it always are too good).

Also, I look on reddit and Twitter. I value if people are speaking good about it and if there's an active community behind it.

Lastly I try to test the services myself, but this is much slower than the research itself.

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pluja commented Jul 16, 2020

@peartobear Boltz exchange was added! I am archiving all related comments

@jjos2372
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Check https://btdex.trade/, code available here https://github.com/btdex/btdex/

Currently allowing cross-chain for BTC, LTC, ETH, and DOGE against BURST as well as instantly creating new tokens and listing them for exchange. Monero will be added next.

@brianddk
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Consider adding the blue bolt icon (LN capable) to exchanges that allow deposit or withdraw on the BTC-LN network. This looks great on the services tab and would be a nice addition to the exchange tab

@antonegorov
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Check https://swapswop.io/

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pluja commented Aug 30, 2020

@advanced-skier Interesting, I'm currently investigating.

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CodeForcer commented Aug 30, 2020

@advanced-skier Interesting, I'm currently investigating.

Hey @pluja have you had time to check out https://localcoinswap.com ?

We actually have a higher trading volume (which is verifiable as our smart contracts and metrics are open source) now than any of the other listed exchanges on KYC-not.

You can check our Github for a number of open-source contribution we've made, as we've recently been awarded by a grant to develop and maintain official Python libraries for Kusama:
https://github.com/LocalCoinSwap?q=&type=public&language=

Our Trust Pilot:
https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.localcoinswap.com

Twitter:
https://twitter.com/LocalCoinSwap_

Blog:
https://blog.localcoinswap.com/

Reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalCoinSwap/

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pluja commented Aug 30, 2020

@CodeForcer Hi, yes I did! I'm a little hesitant on listing as I'm concerned by the 'Limitation, Suspension, and Termination of Your User Account' on LocalCoinSwap ToS. I am currently trying to dig a bit more and try to understand some more things.

Do you know if you have a chance of refund without KYC in case the account is suspended? If yes, where can I read it from them?

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CodeForcer commented Aug 30, 2020

'Limitation, Suspension, and Termination of Your User Account'

Hey @pluja our wallets are non-custodial, meaning you can export your private keys and we never have access to them:
https://ibb.co/vXps1vH

However, we do restrict or delete people's accounts on our site (just like LocalCryptos and LocalMonero) if we become aware a user is engaging in child pornography, terrorism, drug dealing, etc. Or we might restrict login if we suspect an account is being hijacked.

This doesn't give us the ability to take users funds, because as mentioned we don't have access to the private keys of the user and these can be downloaded by any users after signing up - as well as their account mnemonic phrase.

This is pretty standard across any service, and doesn't relate to us being non-KYC though.

There are also situations in which a user will need to verify their identity too, just like on Bisq, LocalCryptos, LocalMonero, and all the other P2P sites listed here. This isn't KYC, it's necessary during a trade dispute to ensure that the cryptocurrency is awarded to the correct person if the traders are claiming a payment made is fake/fraudulent, or that a person isn't trying to claim the account of another user.

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Just to be specific about a situation where an account is suspended:

  • If you already downloaded your account mnemonic, you can take the funds away using a wallet like MetaMask or Electrum
  • We can't "seize" the funds, however by deleting your account you might lose access to them if you haven't saved your mnemonic
  • If you don't have your mnemonic saved then to get access back to your wallets we'll need to reactivate your account

I believe this is exactly the same as HodlHodl, Bisq, LocalCryptos, LocalMonero, and any other P2P exchange. The only alternative would be to have a policy of never restricting people's accounts - which would land any exchange operator in prison quite fast!

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pluja commented Sep 4, 2020

@CodeForcer I will be adding https://localcoinswap.com/ tomorrow.

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@CodeForcer I will be adding https://localcoinswap.com/ tomorrow.

Thanks, I'm happy to make a PR if it saves you work, just let me know!

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pluja commented Sep 7, 2020

@CodeForcer I'm really busy with other personal projects and personal life. If you want to make a PR it would be nice. Thank you.

@antonegorov
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Hi, suggestion https://swapswop.io/
Should I make a merge request?

@thestick613
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Add swap.lightning-network.ro, pull request #39

@pluja
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pluja commented Oct 8, 2020

@thestick613
Hi. I have tested swap.lightning-network.ro myself. I made a Monero -> BTC (Lightning) swap and it worked perfectly. I'll add it as a verified service. Thank you for the suggestion.

I leave some images as evidence of my test:
https://imgur.com/a/u1wQOWX

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When you get a chance I suggest taking a look at https://thorchain.org, an open source decentralised and distributed liquidity network. Already running test-net with about $20 million worth of pooled real assets - https://chaosnet.bepswap.com.

@rachyandco
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@pluja bity trustpilot score is now bigger or equal to 4 https://www.trustpilot.com/review/bity.com
would you reconsider it?

@BitcoinLabrador
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https://relai.ch works via bank transfer in Europe and doesn't require KYC

@BitcoinOG
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https://opendex.network (not easy to use yet though, Desktop App in bisq-style is in the works)

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b70v commented May 15, 2021

I’m editing this because I found more about the service I originally recommended, Switchere. I’m going to recommend this exchange in the two services it offers, buying/selling crypto and swapping crypto. It is based in Russia, but I can confirm it is trustworthy after months of using it, but I did have some hiccups (orders getting stuck) but all were resolved. Their customer support can speak English but I would recommend emailing them instead of doing a live-chat as email customer support seems to be separate and more trained than live chat support. They currently offer these cryptos: BTC, ETH, XRP, LTC, BCH, XLM, AAVE, DAI, EOS, LINK, TRX, UNI, USDC, USDT. All tokens are on Ethereum. Here is a link to their terms of service: https://switchere.com/terms-of-use. Also here is a link to their Disclaimer and Consent: https://switchere.com/disclaimer-and-consent.

Buying:
To buy crypto with a debit card there is a $150 monthly limit. Additionally, the named you signed up with and the name on your debit card is checked. I know this because I have an account under my name and an account under a pseudonym. When I reached the monthly limit for my real account I tried to buy it on my fake account and my order was declined and I received this email:
AE4B8A0F-6E85-4D63-8094-F65AACA15F82

Also, US customers cannot purchase crypto anymore. I do not know about selling because it only pays out through Neteller which is like PayPal but not available in the US. It can also pay out in local banks and by SEPA. Last thing is the minimum for purchasing is 10 USD.

As for swapping crypto, I can still do that even though I live in the US. Fees are a bit high but it still works and they have a rewards program where the more you exchange the higher discount on the fee. Also the minimums for swapping are extremely low. I swapped about 20 cents of BCH for XLM just to test and it worked.

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rzel commented Jul 3, 2021

Please try our exchange bitni.com

https://bitni.com

We've been mentioned and linked by MSN Money, AOL.com, Yahoo Finance, Finance Magnates, Newsmax, and many many more.

Absolutely NO KYC or Verification/Identification (for unlimited crypto-to-crypto swaps, and smaller amounts of fiat).

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b70v commented Sep 12, 2021

Found an exchange that doesn't require KYC, stakecube.net.

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